Letters as the Building Blocks of the World

[Geert van den Bos]

God, θεός , mentioned in NT (and in John's prologue) is the God of Israel who abides in the initial letters of "yom hashihsi vay'chullu hashamayim"

https://biblehub.com/greek/strongs_2316.htm

John 1:1-3, Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν. πάντα δι' αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο, καὶ χωρὶς αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο οὐδὲ ἕν. ὃ γέγονεν

https://x.com/Minkmaat/status/1996842072608067693
Jesus's father is the four Hebrew letter name that resides in the initial letters of "yom hashishi vay'chullu hashamayim"
Although John 17:26 says that he made this known to his disciples the Nicene creed isn't aware of or even denies it

https://www.roncantor.com/post/amazing- ... a-was-both
If you read the entire text of the Nicene Creed, there is no reference to this God being the God of Israel.


So Mary is just 1700 years "Mother of God"

Grok:
https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=199721533999876535

[Geert van den Bos]

Grok: https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1997215339998765352
No confirmed uses exist from the 1st or 2nd century before Irenaeus, though the New Testament implies the concept (e.g., Luke 1:43 calls Mary "the mother of my Lord," where "Lord" denotes God).
christianity.stackexchange.com


Luke 1:43,
καὶ πόθεν μοι τοῦτο ἵνα ἔλθῃ ἡ μήτηρ τοῦ κυρίου μου πρὸς ἐμέ;

Luke 2:11 has κύριος too as being born
ὅτι ἐτέχθη ὑμῖν σήμερον σωτὴρ ὅς ἐστιν Χριστὸς κύριος ἐν πόλει Δαυίδ·

But κύριος is not just denoting the God of Israel
https://biblehub.com/greek/2962.htm

Famous example was Psalms 110:1
LXX Εἶπεν ὁ κύριος τῷ κυρίῳ μου Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου,
ἕως ἂν θῶ τοὺς ἐχθρούς σου ὑποπόδιον τῶν ποδῶν σου.

wherewith KJV went into the mist
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1611_Psalms-110-1/

[Glen]

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John 19:26
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by,
whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

Woman, behold thy son Γύναι ἰδοῦ ὁ υἱός σου (Stephanus TR 1550) 2368


John 19:27
Then saith he (Jesus) to the disciple, Behold thy mother!
And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

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Behold thy mother! Ιδου, η μητηρ σου (Stephanus TR 1550) 1618
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16 × 18 = 288


The first occurrence of 2368 in Pi (3.14) is followed by the # 288.
44521274739245449454236828860613408414863776
.............................^ <-- 7,481st digit


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The English word "church" 1st occurrence appears in Bk 1 Matthew 6:18 (Verify Here).
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church G1577 ekklesia gathering of citizens called out from their homes
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ek G1537 preposition: out of, from, by, away from
kaleo G2564 verb: to call (forth), i.e. to name, by name

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The English word forth appears exactly 888 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here).
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Following the first occurrence of 2368 in pi is the number 288!

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Jesus Christ Ιησους Χριστος (Greek Standard) 2368
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φ (Jesus 888) = 288 Verify Here

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(Encircling) the 1st occurrence of 2368 (Jesus Christ) in Pi are the numbers 454 + 288 = 742.
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The English phrase ( "I am )" appears exactly 742 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here).

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The book G976 βιβλος (Original Text) = 314
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The first occurrence of 7337 in Phi ( φ ) appears at position 16,756.
77077689598854216479733717696259439386480748
.............................^ <-- 16,756th digit

756 - 16 = 740

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The English words spirit + truth appear exactly 740 times in 666 verses in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here).
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740 - 666 = 74

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Jesus (English Ordinal) 74
Church (English Ordinal) 77
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wisdom H2451 חכמה emeth "skill, shrewdness" (Hebrew Standard) = 73
wisdom H2451 חכמה emeth "skill, shrewdness" (Hebrew Ordinal) = 37
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Following the number 7337 is the number 1769.

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Matthew 22:14 For many are called but few are chosen πολλοι γαρ εισιν κλητοι ολιγοι δε εκλεκτοι (Stephanus TR 1550) = 1769
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Following the # 1769 is the number 625.
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The English names Jesus + Jesus' (singular, possessive) appear in the first 4 gospels exactly 625 times (Verify Here).
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The first occurrence of 625 in Phi appears at position 405.
7652170575179788341662562494075890697040002
.............................^ <-- 405th digit


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625 + 405 = 1030
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Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

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The English phrase "thou shalt number them" appears in Verse 3773 (Verify Here)!
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3 x 7 x 7 x 3 = 441

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truth H571 אמת emeth = 441 (Verify Here)
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Jesus Christ 2368 + 3773 wisdom = 6,141 = 6 + 141 = 147

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The English word "living" appears exactly 147 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here).
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147 (Mirror Image) 741 | 147 + 741 = 888


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Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God השמים מספרים כבוד אל shamayim caphar kabowd el (Original Text) = 888
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Jesus G2424 Ιησους (Standard Greek) = 888
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living (English Reduced) 37
living (English Ordinal) 73
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The English word "water" appears exactly 396 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here).
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The English phrase "In the beginning" (Case Sensitive) appears exactly 3 times in the 1769 Old Testament (Verify Here)!
Genesis 1:1 + Jeremiah 26:1 + Jeremiah 27:1
11 + 261 + 271 = 543

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147 + 396 = 543
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Bk 2 Exodus 3:14 "And God said" unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

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I AM That I AM אהיה אשר אהיה (Original Text) 543
Moses H4872 משה Mosheh (Original Text) = 345
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345 + 543 = 888

"Jesus"

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8 x 8 x 8 = 512
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Numbers 5:12 Speak unto the children of Israel דבר אל בני ישראל dabar el ben Yisra'el (Original Text) 840

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840 (Mirror Image) 048 | 840 + 048 = 888
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LORD H3068 יהוה YHVH = 26
Adam H120 אדם aw-dawm = 45
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26 squared × 45 squared = 2701

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Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice,
Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
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Worthy is the Lamb that was slain Αξιον εστιν το αρνιον το εσφαγμενον (Stephanus TR 1550) = 2701


The last digit of 2701 in Pi appears at position number 168.
40812848111745028410270193852110555964462294
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2701 × 168 = 453,768 = 453 + 768 = 1221

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The English words praise + Jesus appear exactly 1221 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here).
The English words Worthy _ power _ houour _ glory appear exactly 888 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verfiy Here).
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8 + 8 + 8 = 24

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Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when
they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
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LORD God made עשות יהוה אלהים YHVH Elohim asah (Original Text) 888

Jesus Christ created the Universe (English Standard) 2405
Jesus Christ created the Universe (English Ordinal) 353
Jesus Christ created the Universe (English Reduced) 128
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2405 + 353 + 128 = 2,886
2 + 886
888

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Psalm 98:3 "He" hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the
house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.
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The English word "He" (Capitalized) appears exactly 754 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!

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the salvation of our God ישועת אלהינו yeshuwah elohiym (Original Text) 888
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The English name "Jesus" appears exactly 983 times in the "Entire" King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!


Bk 4 Numbers 6:24-26
The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: The LORD make his face
shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The LORD
lift up his countenance upon thee,
and give thee peace.

462 + 426 = 888


Jesus

[Geert van den Bos]

John 1:1-2,

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν.
https://www.greekbible.com/john/1

πρὸς
with an accusative, used of the place to which anything tends, to, unto, towards


so "with" seems to be corrupt translation

all christian translations do have "with"
https://biblehub.com/john/1-1.htm

πρὸς even never occurs in NT with the meaning of "with"
https://biblehub.com/greek/4314.htm

But Strong's straightens it out with:

"John’s Gospel opens and closes key theological curtains with πρός. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). The phrase “with God” conveys more than mere vicinity; it signals intimate, personal communion. The preposition reappears in John 1:2, then in 17:11-13 where the Son prays of returning “to” (πρός) the Father, framing redemption inside eternal fellowship. Thus πρός stands at the heart of Trinitarian doctrine: the Son is forever oriented toward the Father, and through Him believers are likewise brought “to the Father” (John 14:6)."

John 17:11-13,
καὶ οὐκέτι εἰμὶ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ, καὶ αὐτοὶ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ εἰσίν, κἀγὼ πρὸς σὲ ἔρχομαι. Πάτερ ἅγιε, τήρησον αὐτοὺς ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί σου ᾧ δέδωκάς μοι, ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν καθὼς ἡμεῖς. ὅτε ἤμην μετ' αὐτῶν ἐγὼ ἐτήρουν αὐτοὺς ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί σου ᾧ δέδωκάς μοι, καὶ ἐφύλαξα, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἐξ αὐτῶν ἀπώλετο εἰ μὴ ὁ υἱὸς τῆς ἀπωλείας, ἵνα ἡ γραφὴ πληρωθῇ. νῦν δὲ πρὸς σὲ ἔρχομαι, καὶ ταῦτα λαλῶ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἵνα ἔχωσιν τὴν χαρὰν τὴν ἐμὴν πεπληρωμένην ἐν ἑαυτοῖς

John 14:6,
λέγει αὐτῷ [ὁ] Ἰησοῦς, Ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ἡ ζωή· οὐδεὶς ἔρχεται πρὸς τὸν πατέρα εἰ μὴ δι' ἐμοῦ.

Translation with "with" seems to go back on Vulgata:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... on=VULGATE
In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud Deum.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apud
Latin apud (“at, by, in the presence of, in the writings of”)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate
The Vulgate is a late-4th-century Latin translation of the Bible. It is largely the work of Saint Jerome who, in 382, had been commissioned by Pope Damasus I to revise the Vetus Latina Gospels used by the Roman Church.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetus_Latina

Ask Grok:

https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1997945231061184665
Do you know how Vetus Latina translated πρὸς in John 1:1-2? viewtopic.php?p=257#p257

Yes, based on historical textual analysis of early Latin Bible translations, the Vetus Latina (the pre-Vulgate Old Latin versions from the 2nd–4th centuries) rendered the Greek preposition πρὸς (pros) in John 1:1–2 with apud, meaning "at," "by," or "in the presence of" (conveying a sense of close relation or proximity rather than simple accompaniment). This is evidenced in surviving fragments and is directly reflected in Jerome's late-4th-century Vulgate revision of the Vetus Latina Gospels, which uses the same phrasing: "In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud Deum" (John 1:1–2).This choice aligns with the Greek πρὸς τὸν θεόν's nuance of intimate relation or "facing toward" God, avoiding a stricter "with" (which would more typically use cum or secum). The forum post you linked (from biblewheel.com) echoes this point in a discussion on translation biases, noting that apud influenced later renderings and arguing against "with" as a potentially corrupt English gloss for the original intent. For deeper manuscript comparisons, resources like the Vetus Latina Database (via the Universität Freiburg) confirm apud in key witnesses such as Codex Vercellensis (iv) and Codex Sangermanensis (ix).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Gospel
"The Last Gospel" is the name given to the prologue of the Gospel of John (John 1:1–14)[1] when read as part of the concluding rites in the Tridentine and Ordinariate forms of the Mass in the Catholic Church